Friday, February 11, 2005

Hockey vs Basketball

I think it is clear now that Plan A for the lockout for Gary Bettman and the NHL management was to break the NHLPA during the lockout. So far that hasn't happened. They have failed in Plan A. For the good of the NHL they need a good Plan B (there are many reasons to doubt that they have one).

I think their miscalculation on Plan A came from the basketball experiences of several owners (who own NBA and NHL teams) and most importantly Gary Bettman, who came to the NHL from the NBA where he was number two to commissioner David Stern. They saw how the NBA players union folded and accepted the NBA offer. They thought it would happen in hockey.

There is a fundamental difference in the kind of players the leagues have. The NBA is a largely inner city urban American crowd. These players often grew up in the "concrete jungle" and learned that they have to do whatever they can to get as much money for themselves as they can.

The NHL is largely composed of Canadians, Europeans and people from northern US states (the ones that voted for John Kerry). Hockey is a relatively expensive sport to play (compared to basketball). One must be able to afford much more equipment plus ice time to develop. Hockey is a middle class game. Hockey is established in the more socialist parts of the world where central bargaining unions are commonplace. Many NHL players have parents who were in unions and directly saw the benefits they brought to their families. Hockey players are sticking together. And we fans dont get to see any NHL hockey this year because the owners miscalculated. They thought the union would break like in the NBA.

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learn to put skates on and walk (skate) on ice and BAM, u got ur self a hockey player. but putting shoes and grabbing a ball is not gonna make u a basketball player, you have to figure out the power, force, direction, and much much more to put the ball in the hoop.
the only thing i like about hockey, is the hott guys :], and the fights, if i want to see talent, i would spend my time watching basketball.
Wow, who ever posted all you have to do in hockey is put on a pair of skates and wham you have a hockey player is stupid. Basketball - babies begin to play as soon as they walk. Everyone can grab a ball and run and throw it into an unguarded hoop. Wow, such a display of talent. In fact everyone does all those basketball courts set up-basketball hoops above garages wow mind blowing talent is needed. Hockey takes more skill than many are willing to admit. Each sport demands athleticism from the players but skating vs. running. Stupid comments by an unknowledegable person.
I agree, stupid comment about skating vs. running. Each sport has it's good and bad points. One is more of a contact sport the other is not. Hockey is a low scoring game in which it takes a lot more effort to score vs. basketball. The end result thos is the same usually the winner is decided by just a few points. It depends on if you want a lot of cheering for points or more of an edge of the seat game. The last minutes of a tight basketball game is exciting - hockey is played like that for the whole game. Hands down hockey is more physical, exciting,and takes more skill to play.
Hands down basketball is the better sport. No mean to rain on your parade but isn't hocky just like one big fight on ice? Basketball takes the skill while hockey takes the aggression. Although skating vs. running isnt true, neither is babies playing basketball. I must say basketball has hockey beat, no matter what people say about the fact basketball is less "intense" It could just be the fact that Basketball players have the skill to make such a hard game seem "easy".
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Basketball takes the most skill. It's the most underestimated. I've played Hockey, Lacrosse, Soccer, Football AND Basketball. Whoever's the ignorant prick that said Basketball is a bunch of open shots deserves to be put on a court full of NBA players. Hell, get put on a court full of the WORST NBA players. You'll get shit on. It's absolutely never an open shot. Someone's going to be there to contest you no matter what.

@"Wow, who ever posted all you have to do in hockey is put on a pair of skates and wham you have a hockey player is stupid. Basketball - babies begin to play as soon as they walk. Everyone can grab a ball and run and throw it into an unguarded hoop. Wow, such a display of talent. In fact everyone does all those basketball courts set up-basketball hoops above garages wow mind blowing talent is needed. Hockey takes more skill than many are willing to admit. Each sport demands athleticism from the players but skating vs. running. Stupid comments by an unknowledegable person."

Babies don't begin playing basketball. They throw a ball. Good luck getting an unguarded hoop. You think everything's unguarded? Play recreational basketball. See how much you have to drive to open a shot for a teammate. Everyone needs to get off of Basketball's case. It takes the most skill. Hands down.
Ok!Basketball is the sport i play.And seriously it is NOT easy. All u Hockey freaks go try makin a 3 pointer or even a freaking free throw with the CORRECT form. And ill just go on an ice rink and score a goal with a stupid peice of wood.So BAM i just proved a point.And Btw (hockey people that means by the way)not saying this to be mean my school people think hockey players are dumb. because the play hockey oviously.So i guess my point is. Basketball is WAY better than Hockey.
Hello fellow friends of love! I just want to make this clear. I don't play either. Yeah. But I do have opinions. Yeah, I know. Like WHOA, hold the phone. A person who DOESN'T play either sport has an opinion? Well it's true. You should make a documentary about this because this is probably a world record here! O.K no more side-tracking buisness. Side-tracking is annoying---I would know. Lemme tell you what else is annoying. WHen people don't flush the toilet in public restrooms. That's just disgusting. It's public! Its not your little house; Everyone uses the toilet you apparently DIDN'T FLUSH. You know who you are. Now, I'm not saying I'm going to report you to the police anytime soon, but I do need you to clean up your act a tinge. Just putting that out there.
I think this says it all:

"I don't know, you tell me. We need to have the strength and power of a football player, the stamina of a marathon runner, and the concentraion of a brain surgeon. But we need to put all this together while moving at high speeds on a cold and slippery surface while 5 other guys use clubs to try and kill us, oh yeah did I mention that this whole time we're standing on blades 1/8 of an inch thick? Is ice hockey hard? I don't know, you tell me. Next question." -Brendan Shanahan
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